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69 Responses to “Linden Lab Censors Critic of JLU Gang Leader”

1. 

   Gaara Sandalwood
   

   Mar 11th, 2010
   

   …….so despite the fact that things still seem to be going in popular favor, Kalel is still insisting that he has won? Oh, you little troll you.
2. 

   Henry Darkthief
   

   Mar 11th, 2010
   

   I asked LL to explain what I did wrong *winks* but no reply yet. I would like to see others post their own responses on that thread, keep the heat turned up on Venkman’s actions.
3. 

   Senban Babii
   

   Mar 11th, 2010
   

   Umm, I think Kalolcakes just did the Herald a great service actually.

   He just proved that the official sources are censored and/or corrupt and that the only place to find out the truth is to read the Herald.

   Spread the word 8D
4. 

   Bubblesort Triskaidekaphobia
   

   Mar 11th, 2010
   

   1. I know Venkman’s claim that the Herald was kicked off of Typepad is false because Pixie told me via chat that she intended to leave Typepad if they removed the content that Kalel DMCAed. The Herald left, they weren’t kicked out. Kalel is a moron.

   2. Nobody reads blogs on the secondlife.com blogs. They’re as impossible to navigate as SL 2.0 (Herald 2.0 is much better. In fact, I think the Herald should redesign the SL 2.0 UI for LL).

   3. That blog post is from a resident, not a Linden. I’m guessing that whoever starts a blog post gets to moderate it? I’m not saying that LL is not in bed with Venkman and his gang, but I don’t think this is really something they did. IDK, I can’t navigate that mess of a blog site to figure out how moderation works. It’s a waste of bandwidth.

   4. Why does Kalel still have a SecondLife account after he blatantly violated the chat logging rules as outlined in TOS? He needs to get deleted, like 2 months ago he needs to get deleted. I wish I had the money to go after people like him. If I could I would sue LL for not enforcing it’s TOS by not deleting his account, which, from what I understand, constitutes breaking a contract. I don’t have the money or time though, so who cares what I would do, right?
5. 

   Bubblesort Triskaidekaphobia
   

   Mar 11th, 2010
   

   Like I just said, I don’t think LL actually censored Darktheif, but just for kicks I went to the blog post and reposted Henry Darktheif’s censored comments (attributing him appropriately, of course).

   Lets see if they let it stay up.
6. 

   All Seeing Eye
   

   Mar 11th, 2010
   

   Sadly the only way to deal with Linden Lab is to go over the heads of the problem staff and go to the suits that are in control now. People that mismanage and cause executives to have to deal with junior high school crap tend to lose their chairs.

   As for the way that forum is moderated? lmao what a joke. Kingdon clearly has more firings to do.
7. 

   Judge Joker
   

   Mar 11th, 2010
   

   All I can say is this guy’s outlook on life and the world around it and his personal views are seriously hard to tolerate.

   It’s time for him to GTFO Second Life, if you wish to join us we’re Gathering Together For Outreach – Second Life aka the GTFO Second Life group.

   So let’s Gather Together and talk more?

   Also I think it’s about time this site gave us a new service, a forum and then linked the comments to our forum profiles which would benefit us more knowing who is who.

   And not someone unrelated using someones name.
8. 

   Seijin Roo
   

   Mar 11th, 2010
   

   Regarding Judge Joker’s idea:

   Not too bad of an idea. It would certainly be nice to get our assorted Witness X’s and General Whatevers verified. And if you wanted to add an extra layer of security, it may be possible to verify (at minimum) access to the account being claimed through some in-world mechanism.

   As for the issue at hand, I’d be interested in testing how moderation on these blogs work. If Linden is in fact the only ones capable of moderating them, this story might have more to it. As it is, the email messages being posted here simply say “rejected by our moderators”, which is pretty vague wording.
9. 

   Darien Caldwell
   

   Mar 11th, 2010
   

   It’s against LL’s rules to post links to 3rd party sites. This is likely why they removed the comment.
10. 

    kalocakes for industry
    

    Mar 11th, 2010
    

    Wow, thats too bad about slchan. That was a great place to go for some top notch Venkman satire and parody. I bet that place drove Kalocakes up a tree. slchan was like an early warning system. They had Venkman the “corrupt superzero” memes flyinjg over there even before the whole Wiki thing blew up in the JLU faces.

    This whole thing is going to get worse and worse unless and until something definitive happens.
11. 

    We
    

    Mar 11th, 2010
    

    Yeah, considering both comments have links in them, I’m betting that they were taken down because of the links, not because of what was written. Though I’m sure the reason they were noticed in the first place was likely because Kalel and friends reported them.

    Still the fact that Kalel spewed a whole bunch of nonsense in reply is funny. The Herald got kicked off TypePad? Going to get sued? Hahahah It proves that Kalel lives in his own dreamworld, the Herald has obviously not been kicked off of TypePad, and if anyone was close to being sued it was Kalel.
12. 

    Jumpman Lane
    

    Mar 11th, 2010
    

    links leading to rl info not in his sl profile
13. 

    Henry Darkthief
    

    Mar 11th, 2010
    

    Actually, all posts that commented on the Herald articles, even ones without the links, have been pulled. There were two others, one by Unklebob, who was replied to my first post. He commented that it was a heck of a mess and did NOT include any links at all.
14. 

    isoz
    

    Mar 11th, 2010
    

    FFS Jumpman stop faking visits on your site!

    Who’s Online
    We have 21662 guests online

    Then you go on his “Site Metrics” nearly 12 people visited it today,

    Sorry for the offtopic but I had to do it, its stronger than me.
15. 

    Edna
    

    Mar 11th, 2010
    

    Please bring back the old template. This one is way too confusing when trying to find the newest stories. Plus the font is too small to read!
16. 

    isoz
    

    Mar 11th, 2010
    

    Edna do CTRL+Mouse scroll for the font problem…

    This template is alright and theres a lot of options for different news displaying types.
17. 

    GreenLantern Excelsior
    

    Mar 11th, 2010
    

    @ Pixeleen

    “well known vigilante gang leader Kalel Venkman”??

    Let’s be a little more creative, shall we? Kalel’s official title is “Imperialist running dog lackey of the capitalist ruling classes, bourgeois traitor to the proletariat, lickspittle idler, kulak parasite, Bonapartist pig, Trotskyite fascist hyena, careerist do-nothing pontificator whose main activism is reaching for the TV remote control from his Barcalounger in the den.”
18. 

    Obvious Schism
    

    Mar 12th, 2010
    

    @ GLE

    Sounds like you have you been reading the “Prime Ministerial Decrees” in Private Eye magazine (which is a UK publication for those that don’t know it).
19. 

    Jessica Holyoke
    

    Mar 12th, 2010
    

    I am posting to see if any comment responding to the false statements about the Alphaville Herald made by Mr. Venkman is being pulled.

    The Herald did not help pirate a wiki in any way.

    The Herald voluntarily changed its name from the Second Life Herald back to the Alphaville Herald. There was no action by the Lab on this because of the complex issues involved with asking the Second Life Herald to change their name.

    There were not “multiple DMCA takedown notices.” There was one falsely filed notice.

    Typepad complied with the DMCA takedown notice and when Typepad was notified that the DMCA was filed falsely, the material, that they didn’t lose, went back up.

    Mr. Venkman, you need to realize the problems you yourself are facing before you go accusing others of a tangle of legal troubles.

    I just posted this on the blog. Lets see if it gets up and stays up.
20. 

    isoz
    

    Mar 12th, 2010
    

    Everyone here knows I’m not stroker.
    You can always google me to know who I am.
    You are the only retarded here, faking stats and talking like a nigger.
21. 

    Henry Darkthief
    

    Mar 12th, 2010
    

    @ Jessica

    Venkman’s posts were NOT pulled. All of the posts linking to the Herald’s articles have been pulled so far. I’ve made one last post there telling people to come here and read the articles, but without any link included. Let’s see how long it lasts.
22. 

    Tuomy Boa
    

    Mar 12th, 2010
    

    I’d like to point out there is report abuse button below Kalols post and Slander is one option on the abuse report…I’ve already reported with both of my accounts!

    Look ma! I can mass AR too!
23. 

    Tux Winkler
    

    Mar 12th, 2010
    

    This guy never ceases to amaze me.

    Unless the Gotham City Mega Net has information us norms on the internet has . . . your world, Kalel, is COMPLETE FANTASY.

    No need to give this bloke a spade to help him dig, he drives a JCB straight through reality – XD.

    Or does your paranoia carry over into your RL, do you watch those dressed up at the superhero conventions, worried that they may be alts or infiltrators. Maybe they will rez some lol cubes and crash the convention. But not before you commit them to your secret wiki!
24. 

    Bubblesort Triskaidekaphobia
    

    Mar 12th, 2010
    

    My reposts of Henry Darktheif’s posts were taken down at 7:37 AM this morning, EST. They lasted about one day.

    I checked, and I was wrong when I said that LL probably doesn’t moderate the blogs on secondlife.com. LL does moderate all the blogs there. What a bunch of control freaks!
25. 

    Urizenus Sklar
    

    Mar 12th, 2010
    

    I’ve asked Linden Lab’s “Conversation Manager” (and former Herald Editor) Mark Wallace WTF is going on here. I eagerly await his reply.
26. 

    Danziel Lane
    

    Mar 12th, 2010
    

    Thank you Urizenus. This is a real good idea. Cause what’s going on there is the opposite of conversation or communication.
27. 

    Henry Darkthief
    

    Mar 12th, 2010
    

    The battle continues. Kalel Venkman is still trying to claim he’s done nothing wrong while pointing fingers at others, currently, Tux. Anyone who cares to read this for themselves (and perhaps add their own comments) can find it at:

    https://blogs.secondlife.com/message/130902#130902

    Anyone else up to tugging on Superman’s cape??
28. 

    Tux Winkler
    

    Mar 12th, 2010
    

    Oh, its good to see him talking about it.

    It is the first stage to recovery I have heard!
29. 

    IntLibber Brautigan
    

    Mar 12th, 2010
    

    GreenLantern Excelsior

    Mar 11th, 2010

    @ Pixeleen

    “well known vigilante gang leader Kalel Venkman”??

    Let’s be a little more creative, shall we? Kalel’s official title is “Imperialist running dog lackey of the capitalist ruling classes, bourgeois traitor to the proletariat, lickspittle idler, kulak parasite, Bonapartist pig, Trotskyite fascist hyena, careerist do-nothing pontificator whose main activism is reaching for the TV remote control from his Barcalounger in the den.”
    _________________

    GLE, we don’t speak Prokanese here…. wrong blog…
30. 

    IntLibber Brautigan
    

    Mar 12th, 2010
    

    BTW folks,
    Kalels statements about the Herald being false, counts as “defamation of persons or groups” under the LLTOS, and given the secondlife.com blogs are subject to LLTOS, you may AR Kalel for those false statements….
31. 

    Tux Winkler
    

    Mar 12th, 2010
    

    On a serious note though, I can see why they late GLE do the public chat.

    At least he hasn’t threatened me with talking to my wife – XD

    I also made this suggestion:

    Make your wiki public and I will route the DNS to that. Then everything is up to date and accurate =)
32. 

    Alyx Stoklitsky
    

    Mar 12th, 2010
    

    The posts linking to the Herald were most likely pulled because someone at LL doesn’t like having the proof Plexus’ corruption being spread around – probably Plexus himself.

    As for Kalel’s comments; A++, comedy gold, would lol again.

    Acting like he’s come out on top when it’s clear that his credibility, and that of his group, have been destroyed?

    Acting like the Herald and Tux are drowning under legal problems?

    LOL.

    You are terrible with words, Kalel. You have this awful, dare I say it, superman complex where you seem to genuinely believe that you are a paragon of honesty and integrity even though your practices are even more shady than the people you (try to) fight against.

    I recommend leaving the talking to your apologist, GLE
33. 

    Fred Rookstown
    

    Mar 13th, 2010
    

    Reposting here what I wrote to Kalel on SL’s blogorums:

    Kalel, I normally wouldn’t post here, especially in reply to you, but your insistance that you have done nothing wrong rings rather hollow to me, and the fact that you’re now trying to lawyer-fu everyone who merely speaks against you is rather unheroic.

    I would have been perfectly fine with your group if it had merely ARed any problems and maybe even educated newbies on how to deal with griefers. Instead, your group has decided to also gather everything they could possibly find about a user or griefer. It doesn’t matter if it’s lawful (in the U.S., it’s sure as hell not lawful elsewhere), it’s hellishly unethical. If you you truly stand for justice and the rights of mankind, the fact that it’s unethical should stop you right away. This is different than a credit card company gathering personal information; They NEED that information for billing. You don’t need it at all, as the police organizations you say the information will go to will conduct an independent investigation to avoid gathering false information.

    Let’s use an application of the golden rule, here: If I were gathering information on you, including your RL address and medical problems, on a hidden wiki that was open to whoever joined my Tightwearers of America group that requires no criminal background check prior to joining and with excessively lax employment guidelines, and with a public-facing webserver that has a history of logging in unauthorized users without prompting, would you stand for it? Would you just let us do it? There’s no opt-out method, either, which means you’re possibly violating several state privacy laws (some states even require an opt-in).

    I’m not trying to start an argument here, I’m just trying to put things into perspective for you, Kalel. It doesn’t matter if it’s lawful; It’s just not right.
34. 

    We
    

    Mar 13th, 2010
    

    @Tux
    “On a serious note though, I can see why they late GLE do the public chat.
    At least he hasn’t threatened me with talking to my wife – XD”

    Yeah, seeing Kalel in debate shows how he’s 200 times more delusional and irrational than GLE could ever be.

    I like that he threatened to “Alert your wife”, something that falls under creepy real life stalking and disclosure.

    Considering Kalel claimed that, if he were home when that “Trick or Treat” thing had happened, that he would have shot all the people for “trespassing”, there’s little doubt that Kalel is a complete nutter.

    I honestly don’t know why you associate with him, GreenLantern. You and the GLC are far better than him or the JLU could ever be, and getting dragged into their drama, incompetence, and stalking, isn’t helping either you or your group’s reputation.
35. 

    IntLibber Brautigan
    

    Mar 13th, 2010
    

    Geeze, Tux, that IS low of Kalol.

    Pix, when are you gonna be ready to file? We can serve him at home and at work for maximum lulz.
36. 

    Judge Joker
    

    Mar 13th, 2010
    

    @Urizenus Sklar I think it would be prudent for you as a respected professor to refer him and his case to the Center for Internet Addiction.

    http://twitter.com/DrKimberlyYoung

    http://www.netaddiction.com

    And have some kind of assessment or intervention as it’s clear from all his actions berating him anymore for what he has done is not getting though.

    It might be affecting his mental health and cause us to be implicated as cyber bullys and the cause of anything that might happen to him in the future.

    And as such we don’t want to push him to harm himself or be implicated as the cause even if he has brought this on himself.
37. 

    Kiddoh
    

    Mar 13th, 2010
    

    “Pix, when are you gonna be ready to file? We can serve him at home and at work for maximum lulz.”

    “……………………………………………ready to file? ………………………..m at home and at work for maximum lulz.”

    “m at home and at work for maximum lulz.”

    “for maximum lulz.”

    /me slaps IntLibber
38. 

    At0m0 Beerbaum
    

    Mar 13th, 2010
    

    LOL slchan is up, in a sense. It was a keg of shit, for the most part, so I nuked the boards clean of shit.

    He’s a fucking idiot.

    Stop soiling superman’s good name with your stupid, manipulative bullshit. Please end your life.
39. 

    Tux Winkler
    

    Mar 13th, 2010
    

    Hmmm, I just got notified of content removal too. No links, all I can see is I called Kalel by stating fact. See for yourself:

    Hello,

    You have received this email because the content you posted below has been rejected by our moderators:

    Subject: Re: Griefers and Stalkers

    > To clarify, Tux, your ISP happens to be based in the United States, not the U.K, though they have a U.K. office – that makes them subject to U.S. law.
    Are you asking or telling me? If you are telling me, then your information is as accurate as you wiki content. Not that it is relevant.
    > It’s public because you helped make it public, and you can’t really distance yourself from the theft after having participated in it, and then decry it.
    There you go again, implying I had something to do with your top secret stuff being on show. I am no more guilty than DC Heros (or whomever has copyright to the real superheros) are for you stalking people who didn’t fit your spandex suits.
    It is public because you allowed someone to download it.
    * You granted access.
    * You stored personal information and contributed to it.
    * You retrieve the information into local chat with your brainiac devices.
    * You failed to vet members correctly (how many others can really be trusted?).
    * You have a group who have been reduced to stalkers and griefers because of this.
    * You shot me in a sandbox without reason (XD).
    How many more of these points do you intend to blame on others?
    > Your comment is interesting – you have had no single person complain about their information being publically shown. I think in part the reason for this is that people have been coming to me about it, thinking the stolen wiki you host is under my control somehow. May I refer these complaints to you, then? Perhaps you can address them, since you claim the right of total control of that material at this point
    The wiki on my server is far from a copy of your one and you know that (although content may be the same for the most part). Under your control? Brilliant. Sure, have them send me a NC or email, I can pass these to the uploader (as I previously said I would for you).
    Does a little part of you not realise how wrong your actions have been in keeping this wiki? Even slightly?

    Posted: 3/12/10 2:51 PM
40. 

    We
    

    Mar 13th, 2010
    

    @Tux
    That is curious.

    I’m betting it’s Kalel and the JLU doing an “AR Party” in the SL forums, all of them clicking on it and reporting it for abuse. There’s obviously nothing abusing there, but if LL gets enough reports, they just seem to assume they’re missing something, and will suspend or censor people like that due to JLU’s cyber-bullying.
41. 

    Tux Winkler
    

    Mar 13th, 2010
    

    The thing that rattles my cage is the fact now his statement looks unchallenged. And the worst thing is the locked them so I cannot repost.

    Still, I figured something like that would happen.
42. 

    Vince Braver
    

    Mar 13th, 2010
    

    In this article.

    We have Kalel as usual attempting to spread the belief he has won some fictional war.

    And we also have the Linden Lab further drowning their own credibility and trust.

    Sometimes im kinda glad i got banned.
43. 

    We
    

    Mar 13th, 2010
    

    @Tux

    Yeah, well Kalel has gotten good at abusing the system to get his way, and he’s got the entire group to support him to make bogus abuse reports and spy on people. It’s fittingly ironic that the people who started to “fight the griefers” are worse than any of the griefing groups ever were.

    There really is no more pure evil than that convinced of it’s righteousness.
44. 

    Vince Braver
    

    Mar 13th, 2010
    

    @Kiddoh
    “Pix, when are you gonna be ready to file? We can serve him at home and at work for maximum lulz.”
    “……………………………………………ready to file? ………………………..m at home and at work for maximum lulz.”
    “m at home and at work for maximum lulz.”
    “for maximum lulz.”
    /me slaps IntLibber

    Reading that comment made me hate all life..ever.

    Please go die.
45. 

    Fred Rookstown
    

    Mar 13th, 2010
    

    https://blogs.secondlife.com/message/130978#130978

    My message is still up, somehow.
46. 

    Robble Rubble
    

    Mar 14th, 2010
    

    They deleted my comments too!
47. 

    Bubblesort Triskaidekaphobia
    

    Mar 14th, 2010
    

    This comment has been has been rejected by the moderators.
48. 

    Bubblesort Triskaidekaphobia
    

    Mar 14th, 2010
    

    Crap, they followed me to the Herald and got me again! LOL

    (BTW, that’s a gag, the comment was not really taken down)
49. 

    Judge Joker
    

    Mar 14th, 2010
    

    So who said LL moderation is an actual person?

    I don’t see a name on it? like Faux Linden has rejected your comments.

    Perhaps they are just totaly lazy and Kalel knows if you abuse report it enough times it automatically rejects it?

    Consider how Linden Labs choose to have other users answer questions for points like some game, inorder to gain some street cred as the best “mentor” or “helper” with the most points?

    Which ruins the point of being a volunteer to help others when you have a score board.

    Then is it far fetched to think that LL has introduced a form of community self moderation?

    I very much doubt the new “conversation manager” would reveal that messages can be abuse reported enough times to be be automatically rejected in a faster version of Kalels AR partying trick.

    That said there’s only one way find out?

    I would only condone such an act for the purpose of testing the limits and publishing a Jira if they have made it automatic with no real employee oversight.

    That also said in such a case there should be a appeals process!

    And if it really is LL employee moderated then

    Lucy, someone’s got some splainin to do!
50. 

    Robble Rubble
    

    Mar 14th, 2010
    

    Oh hey wow just noticed these in my inbox, I need to check that more often.

    This first one was in response to Kalel himself.

    Hello,

    You have received this email because the content you posted below has been rejected by our moderators:

    Subject: Re: Griefers and Stalkers

    The thought of you of all people talking about stalkers is pretty funny.

    Posted: 3/11/10 3:47 PM

    And this next message was in response to a response of the previous message that was less than nice from some SL clubowner.

    Hello,

    You have received this email because the content you posted below has been rejected by our moderators:

    Subject: Re: Griefers and Stalkers

    I was refering to the in-depth wiki Kalel keeps stocked with people’s personal information.

    :V

    Posted: 3/11/10 4:42 PM

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