Rebuilt New German Army A Growing Threat
by Alphaville Herald on 30/11/07 at 7:07 am
Better uniforms, multi-prong strategy, and Mercanzeteer alliance
by Pixeleen Mistral, National Affairs desk
Early in 2007, a series of violent pro- and anti- Front National (FN) protests sparked by Jean-Marie Le Pen supports’ in-world presence ended up on the doorstep of the Modern German Army in SL – creating what the German Army referred to as ‘unbearable French lag’ at their base in Porcupine sim.
Since those dark days in January, the New German Army has been adapting and refining its uniforms, weapons, and tactics to become a formidable foe for those who might try to reign in its expansion. While it is reported that the Mercanzeteer militia has taken a policy of appeasement toward the Germans – is this really a wise course? More importantly, what is the secret to the German’s success? Tristan Mineff recently took a time for an exclusive interview with the Herald. What I learned may give other armies pause – can anyone stop the German army’s expansion? What will this growing threat do to the shaky balance of power between SL militias?
Tristan Mineff: Hai thar, Frau Mistral.
Pixeleen Mistral: Hi Tristan – what’s new?
Tristan Mineff: the German Army. we Rebuilt.
Pixeleen Mistral: really? how is that going?
Tristan Mineff: we are now a potential counterweight to AN and mercz power.
Pixeleen Mistral: seriously?
Tristan Mineff: indeed.
Tristan Mineff: In fact, we defeated AN’s old ally.
Tristan Mineff: AM. SLSN. and DAE. even got new uniforms.
Pixeleen Mistral: the new uniforms look nice
Tristan Mineff: Yeah, i like them. KC made em. he’s a good builder. made them in like a day.
Pixeleen Mistral: so you have a good builder – how about scripters and weapons experts?
Tristan Mineff: Yep. Our people are now Veterans of real life too. We have anakin boyd. he scripts for us. Chaos Kilara. Makes realy nice weapons for us. We have 10,500 square meters of land.
the “Deutscher Prasident of one of the Best armies in Secondlife”
Pixeleen Mistral: you must have good financing
Tristan Mineff: We run completely off donations. We just have really cool people that like to help us out.
Pixeleen Mistral: how many people in the army now?
Tristan Mineff: like 150.
Pixeleen Mistral: you have been recruiting!
Tristan Mineff: indeed.
Pixeleen Mistral: what do the AN and Merc say about all this?
Tristan Mineff: Hmm. AN doesnt bother with us anymore. they concern themselves mostly with Merczateers. we don’t bother them right now anyway. as for merczateers…
Tristan Mineff: ”[8:37] Salvatore Noriega: we have some problems with merczateers and heard that they piss in their pants when they see you so we thought it would be good to ally with you”.
Tristan Mineff: Basicly that sums it up.
Pixeleen Mistral: sounds like you are gathering your strength
Tristan Mineff: Yeah, we need to gather a lot of strength to become one of the bigger armies. We are definatley in the top 3.
Tristan Mineff’s first life
Pixeleen Mistral: I’m glad you got more land – that was pretty bad when you were stuck by those french guys lagging up the sim
Tristan Mineff: Yeah, It was a loong time ago. Frenchies left when we sold land. Our luck. Lol. We needed the money anyway, we had land offers elswhere.
Pixeleen Mistral: so where is your base now? which sim?
Tristan Mineff: Oh we have 4 independent parcels. 3,000 meters in Malvern.
Pixeleen Mistral: smart – you have multiple bases
Tristan Mineff: Yeah. Kinda hard to defend 4 independent bases. But it is easier because we can have different base’s for different things. the one in Malvern, is a training base.
Tristan Mineff: 3,500 meters in Chiaksan is Headquarters.
Tristan Mineff: we have 2,500 meters in Ddalgi. Basicly just a place for the Divisions to Organize.
Tristan Mineff: Another 3000 meters for Our biggest branch. the Luftwaffe. its also a building site.
Pixeleen Mistral:wow
Pixeleen Mistral: it must have been hard work to do all this. I mean its not easy to organize this sort of thing
Tristan Mineff: Aah, i have very good commanders for that. I don’t do it all alone. We rely a lot on co-operation. Other armies simply say. “TP here, we are attacking”. we order our Divisional groups to different areas in prong’d attacks. Thats what is leading to our late success’s.
Pixeleen Mistral: so strategy is your secret weapon
Tristan Mineff: Indeed. Other armies claim Discipline, Co-operation. we simply claim, We are friends and comrades, and we use Strategy. Not discipline.
Pixeleen Mistral: that makes sense – it allows for more flexibility
Tristan Mineff: Indeed, our people are more willing to listen to commands. We ask that our soldiers question orders. Because it ensures that Problems the commander didn’t forsee are Fix’d.
Pixeleen Mistral: sounds like it could be more fun, too – getting bossed around all the time is not my idea of fun
Inuyasha Deere
Nov 30th, 2007
Decent article…. Though since when has the German Army had one hundred and fifty people?
pierre luigi
Nov 30th, 2007
Decent article? A useless interview without direction, without interesting and probing questions and on a subject no one cares about! That an ‘editor’ stoops so low with garbage such as this is incredible. There are no comments as people can’t be bothered to waste their time. I did, as it pains me when journalism is so bad. But then, the Herald never was journalism, just a joke.
Plot Tracer
Nov 30th, 2007
Jeez, this “paper” takes the biscuit where nonsense is concerned. Not only did it miss the point of the FN demos (ie. a huge inworld alliance of anti-nazis defeating- and making look ridiculous the right wing through sl to the point that it hit real headlines world wide) but they show a racism beyond reason… erm… frenchies? Not only was the anti fn made up of people from all over the real world, the “german army” are made up of quite a few nonfgerman fantasists, who for a long time did not discern between the fn or the protestors. Eventually some of them got a bit of sense, but the german army, throughout the anti-fn demo on porcupine, were consistent griefers.
The Herald so called wanna be journos are also seemingly missing the next big thing. In sl this weekend there is a mass demo against the build-up of a war machine against Iran. And there are peace camps setting up for the long haul. Anyone wanting to write a proper piece of reportage, please contact some of the organisers and those taking part. Details are not ard to get- just drop me an Im or go to the sllu blog- http://slleftunity.blogspot.com
Is there one Pilger amongst you?
Artemis Fate
Nov 30th, 2007
Everytime I see “Deutch” I initially always seem to read it as “Douche”. So Tristan’s profile where he calls himself “Deutcher” was pretty hilarious to me.
DaveOner
Nov 30th, 2007
No way, an army in SL based on the Germans? Genius!!
Lasher
Nov 30th, 2007
what a pile of rubbish I’m actually embarrassed I read it thinking there might actually be something of substance here. Made worse by the fact that you give publicity to that sort of crap… how sad you have nothing decent to write about and sadder that you just publish a senseless transcript that says nothing. Silly children!!!
SqueezeOne Pow
Nov 30th, 2007
While I’d like to see the SLH get back to reporting on SL military news, I’d also like to see it be more than a fluff piece to help a guy’s recruiting…as nice a guy as Tristan is.
dbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbb
Nov 30th, 2007
This army is a threat to what? Not geting their homework done? Missing the school bus because they were up too late playing their video game the night before?
Wendell Holmer
Nov 30th, 2007
Here’s a probing question: Are there any actual Germans in the German army?
Nacon
Nov 30th, 2007
Oh how cute…. more children with their fantasy.
So what is this now? A fantasy “fantasy” competition?
Enough with the bull-”oh yeah? my army is better than you”-crap, go home kids.
Fox Mulgrave- AM Grand Marshal
Nov 30th, 2007
Wow..
that’s interesting Trist, it’s just I seem to recall when your military attacked we owned them totally, I seem to recall you IMing me with a complaint about how my EMP is ‘cheating because it fires to fast’ Please, Tristian, send me an invite or a land mark to this parallel world you seem to be living in. Have a very nice day whilst thinking of your fantisies-
Fox
Fox Mulgrave- AM Grand Marshal
Nov 30th, 2007
P.S:
two corrections Tristian;
One: SLSN disbanded, you did not ‘defeat them’
Dark Army Empires (DAE) is KC’s group, who has been in both RoG AND D.A.E at the same time, he then decided to merge it with RoG, you were never enemies, infact all I see the following comment ‘AM. SLSN. and DAE.’ as is just you thinking of the first three militaries you could pick off the top of your head.
-Fox Mulgrave (I come in peace from Planet Earth.. you know.. the one where things with a grain of truth actually happens)
Message from TALK TO FRANK:
Tristian, please stay off the Mushrooms, we find that they delude people.
Luke Dwi: AM Grand Marshal
Nov 30th, 2007
Right one thing RoG, actually three things. Number one being you have NEVER defeated us, and number two is that we were never allies with AN, and you also merged with DAE. You never defeated them, and as for SLSN, you never ever defeated them.
Pauleh Kamachi
Nov 30th, 2007
curious, tristan are you the guy that came and spoke to me about SLA then attacked with them using a auto killer on me, ill check my ban list, ohh yes you were.
and am i the only one who hasnt seen this group?
Inuyasha Deere
Nov 30th, 2007
I must back up Luke and Fox…. Tristan’s claims are poor. The claim that he took out the Alpha Marines or SLSN is laughable, to say the least.
Proteus Hand
Nov 30th, 2007
Wow, I stopped reading this when you quoted someone of the “mercinary army” as part of the Merczateers.
Seriously, I want to punch whoever wrote this until they stop moving… Tristan hasn’t even set foot in Badnarik since he was ejected from the Merczateers some seven months ago, and has been sending pictures of his exploits that he finds humorous to me for some two months now to win my favor.
It really makes my skin crawl when the wrong people get their hands on the press, because they seriously, just spout out bullshit and slander.
If the Herald seriously wants to retain their credibility, I really suggest that you edit the hell out of this, demand an apology from the RoG for their severe maligning of rival military groups, and blatantly lying to your reporters. If they refuse to cooperate with this (which they most likely will), then I hope you would at least have the common decency to post an apology for not bothering to research the first bit of information you were given, and find out whether or not it was true.
Lurdan Huszar
Nov 30th, 2007
I’m the leader of the Merczateers, and I’m honestly disgusted with this article. First of all, the genius that wrote this article spelt my group’s name wrong. Also, several things said here are largely biased or inaccurate, including our stance with them. We are not allied with them, we do not “appease” them. The last time I even came into contact with a member of Tristan’s group was when I had to confront Tristan after he boasted that he was going to illegally prim-copy our uniforms and distribute them in sandboxes for free with the intention of making my work a “freebie.” This is the second time Tristan Mineff has been involved in a prim copying incident with my armor. Also, the people that are mentioned in the article are incompetents that I have witnessed myself, as they were all in my army at one point, including Tristan Mineff, that barely got past the recruitment phase, and eventually left or were removed. But before I get into a rant, I’d like to conclude with this. Before making any decisions or establishing any opinions about any Second Life military, I implore you to not simply rely on horribly written articles and biased facts told by people too full of themselves to admit their faults. Come to their Headquarters, meet the people, observe the day to day activities – then make your judgment.
Raiden Zanx- Alliance Fleet division NCO
Nov 30th, 2007
Wahhh! de germans are coming to get the AN! dey be so strong!!!!1!11!!1!1!1112 Dey be awesome!
Btw all of the above was indeed sarcasm and this article makes a possibly good journalist into a mere mortal who condones lying by allowing a boy who is known to exaggerate his way into his groups grave… i’ve seen articles in MAD comic books with more truth then this (and i qoute) Deutscher Prasident… And yes once again we do fear your footsteps… for we just finished cleaning our planet of you’re putrid corpses and filthy feces encrusted armor!
Vladimus Nikolaidis
Nov 30th, 2007
I lol’d at this article. Seriously. The picture alone, with all 3 or 4 guys in different poses photoshopped together to look like a bunch of different people alone made it worth my time to read this article, even without all of the failure inside of it.
Hua Yifu
Nov 30th, 2007
Tristan, when Pixleen asked you about weapon experts, how could you not mention me? I made and scripted all of your weapons for free.
Tristan Mineff
Nov 30th, 2007
*sigh*
D.A.E did not merge. We defeated them in thick battle. Talk it over with KC if you must.
SLSN was Crushed the first time around by a stark Ejection
3 of AM’s leading men Joined RoG i call that somewhat of a victory.
“deutscher” i have typos, im human.
i never allied AN and never will.
I was allied to merczateers at one point, they left me for the soon-to-callapse SLSN.
Furthermore, if you don’t have something nice to say, don’t say it. Its simple, i will not waste my time.
Pauleh Kamachi
Nov 30th, 2007
PVP HUD tweaked: Tristan Mineff has hit you with a Physical/Active Object named 1194193906.
PVP HUD tweaked: Tristan Mineff has hit you with a Physical/Active Object named 1194193907.
PVP HUD tweaked: Tristan Mineff has hit you with a Physical/Active Object named G-SLAW RezKill.
PVP HUD tweaked: Tristan Mineff has hit you with a Physical/Active Object named 1194193911.
PVP HUD tweaked: Tristan Mineff has hit you with a Physical/Active Object named 1194193914.
You died and have been teleported to your home location
PVP HUD tweaked: Tristan Mineff has hit you with a Physical/Active Object named G-SLAW RezKill.
PVP HUD tweaked: Tristan Mineff has hit you with a Physical/Active Object named G-SLAW RezKill.
PVP HUD tweaked: Tristan Mineff has hit you with a Physical/Active Object named G-SLAW RezKill.
You died and have been teleported to your home location
PVP HUD tweaked: Tristan Mineff has hit you with a Physical/Active Object named G-SLAW RezKill.
PVP HUD tweaked: Tristan Mineff has hit you with a Physical/Active Object named 1194193928.
You died and have been teleported to your home location
PVP HUD tweaked: Tristan Mineff has hit you with a Physical/Active Object named 1194193931.
Wasaac Hax is Offline
PVP HUD tweaked: Tristan Mineff has hit you with a Physical/Active Object named G-SLAW RezKill.
You died and have been teleported to your home location
PVP HUD tweaked: Tristan Mineff has hit you with a Physical/Active Object named 1194193937.
PVP HUD tweaked: Tristan Mineff has hit you with a Physical/Active Object named G-SLAW RezKill.
PVP HUD tweaked: Tristan Mineff has hit you with a Physical/Active Object named G-SLAW RezKill.
You died and have been teleported to your home location
PVP HUD tweaked: Tristan Mineff has hit you with a Physical/Active Object named 1194193960.
PVP HUD tweaked: Tristan Mineff has hit you with a Physical/Active Object named 1194193963.
PVP HUD tweaked: Tristan Mineff has hit you with a Physical/Active Object named 1194193968.
Well congrats on your victory against DAE, grievers vs grievers must of been fun
Tristan Mineff
Nov 30th, 2007
Furthermore, the quote “Salvatore Noriega: we have some problems with merczateers and heard that they piss in their pants when they see you so we thought it would be good to ally with you”
was actouly a joke.
nothing more, nothing less. its a laughable IM. that i found quite hilarious, i do not consider this to be a true standing between Mercz and Germans.
our current stance with Merczateers is nuetrality.
we havent been allied with merczateers for a long while.
That wasnt photoshop’d. our intent wasnt to make it look more then we had, Infact, we took a picture of ourselves once, And we found the picture to be bad because some of the members where pointing the wrong way. so we took it again, with the snapshot of us behind us. because we where looking at it, but KC took a pic with the picture still up, but i used the second picture because its more organized.
Tristan Mineff
Nov 30th, 2007
Another “lol” is the guy who can’t count. it is apparently 7 guys in that picture.
Bull#@!$
Nov 30th, 2007
All this is BS I was with Tristan back in mercz – Arragant A-Hole. No friends Lies here. Not allies with mercz. Hes not in the top three militias. Not 150 strong. Mercz definatly are not afraid of him. No one pisses thier pants when they see Tristan, maybe a noob with a popgun. But definatly not Mercz, Ordo, AN, AM, SLSN, Any legit army out there. You claimed to be Nazi. You claimed to be a actual german! We never gheard you speak it. So get a life and stop making up fantasy crap
Levi Anansi
Dec 1st, 2007
So…what the hell is this army all about? What is their goal? What is their political affiliation? If the have none, they are no more than mercenaries mixed with a decent scripter, which makes them less than a bunch of ban-able noob griefers. Really, this is simple, in the past when we fought, we had something worth fighting for, be it land, ideals, vision of future, hell even wwiioler had something worth defending, and did it with charm and humor. What are our AN, Merc, and our new Douche friend fighting over? If it is only against frenchie, I hate to break this to you, the lost the minute you made a demand…
Maria Leveaux
Dec 1st, 2007
~Stands up, Yawns, Stretches, Turns my back and sits down again~
Maria.
STALIN
Dec 1st, 2007
MY ARMY IS BETTER THAN YOURS
Random Person
Dec 1st, 2007
Miss Mistral… I honestly have to say, you either lack interviewing skills entirely, or simply are the most trusting person i’ve met. Your interviews are flat, and without challenge or depth, and it seems as though they are without any sort of preperation or forknowledge whatsoever.
Please, if you want to write interesting articles, at least make a token effort, rather than just giving people an open forum
Bruno Ziskey
Dec 1st, 2007
My God…do you even have a life Tristan? Seriously, do you even believe half the crap that comes out of your mouth? 150? Yeah…*dies laughing* Lets see you and your 150 badass Nazi friends at Sparta’s base in Gliding, and see how long you can last before you are forced to use autokillers and orbits in order to make yourself feel like you’ve won. Hell, we even have our own roleplay background story, at our website wwww.spartansofsecondlife.tk Please Tristan….get a fuckin dictionary, your spelling is almost as bad as steve319 cao. Oh and that epic fail Merczateers mispelling had me laughing for quite a while. Thanks for that.
SLHerald rerporters:If you’re not going to do any more reporting on actual military groups and choose to keep reporting on disorganized griefer groups like RoG, please keep me and Sparta out of it, last thing I need is to be put in the same category as these posers.
Bruno Ziskey
King of Sparta
Phantom
Dec 1st, 2007
I find this funny really, I will give them this they do have nice new armor. but only have really one comment
“But definatly not Mercz, Ordo, AN, AM, SLSN, Any legit army out there.”
I have to disagree with Ordo being thrown in there, seeing as if anyone that TP’s into there sim will die in 5 seconds if not sooner is so lame it hurts laughing at them.
so I would put this guys in the Ordo or SLSN since both aren’t armies no more.
what I would like to see is an article that someone would you know look at least 2 sides of the story and not just one. you know what a reporter should do.
Ingrid Northmead
Dec 1st, 2007
Wow, I never even knew people took their little pretend armies so seriously. Not seriously enough to check their German (protip: an ä is not an a, Mr. Prasident.), but seriously nonetheless. I guess that’s sort of cute.
Rape-Ape
Dec 1st, 2007
you’re all faggots
Tristan Mineff
Dec 1st, 2007
P.S. pauleh.
You stepped on a mine.
lawl.
Proteus Hand
Dec 1st, 2007
Thank you, Tristan, for rectifying the outright bullshit in this article. From this point forward, I’ve decided to declare this entire article (and I’m sure everyone will agree with me) to be a big ol’ barrel of lulz in the Herald’s expense, since Tristan probably meant this as a joke anyways, and Pixeleen is clearly going to need someone with better understanding of the military scene in order to repair the herald’s extremely flawed viewpoint of it.
So, on a scale of lulz, I’d give this article a 9/10
All it needs is a comment from Prok to be perfect.
Maks Vendetta
Dec 1st, 2007
First the set of pointless Penance Saterau articles, now a highly inaccurate article on the RoG. Really, I think it’s time to find a better SL news coverage site, because the Herald has gone down the shitter. Fuck, I will even write an article if it means saving the credibility of the Herald.
Tristan, quit beating around the bush. You aren’t German, you don’t speak German, and you don’t serve in the German military. Your group sucks. Your profile used to state you were a US Marine, than a US soldier training Germans, than you are KSK, than what is it now, I’ve lost track? Cut the bullshit. You are an underaged pathological liar, your group hasn’t done shit, never has, never will.
Maybe it’s time you commit account suicide, and create an alt and a new identity (which you are more than capable of) and fix your fuckups.
kthx bai.
Inuyasha Deere
Dec 1st, 2007
Proteus is right. This article is laughable, and arguably the worst SL Herald article I ever seen.
Back when I was a newbie,I had a horrible war declaration article written out of impulse. This article seems to rival it’s stupidity.
Chav Paderborn
Dec 1st, 2007
I don’t understand this article. Is it just some jokey irrational knee-jerk about Germans having a virtual army or what? The comments contain why more information than the brief article itself.
Maks Vendetta
Dec 1st, 2007
Oh, and Mr. Mineff’s profile said he’s been to Afghanistan and “lost a buddy or two”
This proves how he is a sick fuck; he doesn’t know what it is to lose a guy in your squad, let alone your battalion. You don’t lose a “buddy or two,” and someone who words such tragedy like that is obviously a fake.
Now Tristan you are probably going to go to your profile picks and edit it, so I’ve age reported you, mainly because your false claims of being in the military. Enjoy.
Inuyasha Deere
Dec 1st, 2007
I just went to Tristan’s “outpost” and killed him five times. Never got a single shot rained upon me.
This can only further prove the fact that the paramilitary group entitled “Republic of Germany” is a bunch of weak, slow, dumb hicks plagued by the notion of bigotry.
Yes, they do have 145 people, however, only a couple dozen of these individuals have been online in the last several months. The majority of them are from his old faction, which is in fact the same group.
Tony Zadoq
Dec 1st, 2007
Lol, worst article ever. These German d00ds attack vanguard all the time. They have poor combat skills they camp at our spawn with like 2 people and throw nades out the door. Don’t even shoot. just throw nades. Noobs
Maks Vendetta
Dec 1st, 2007
ROFL
Latest update.
So I go and carpet bomb the fuck out of their base, and than while in another parcel, one of the screw balls right clicks and holds my plane, so I shoot down on so he’d fuck off, and I get banned. Tristan is a genius.
Vegna Fouroux
Dec 2nd, 2007
i went to their base today killed their high command with a fellow pilot and a recruit
later the germans they came to our base (AM)
we beat them. not gonna say we destroyed them but they pretty much went away after much screaming and shouting from KC
Bruno Ziskey
Dec 2nd, 2007
Yes, yes….KC came to our base, flew around and did nothing but run away from our pilots who shot him down…then IMs me saying “LOLZ I shot down 5 of your guys” Riiiight…….
Fox Mulgrave- AM Grand Marshal
Dec 2nd, 2007
*amused*
You took ‘three of our leading men’..
let me put you straight there;
you took a recruit, a marine, and Jay.
The recruit and the marine were slackers.
Jay was just a pain in the arse.
-Fox Mulgrave- AM Grand Marshal
Fox Mulgrave- AM Grand Marshal
Dec 2nd, 2007
Oh noes…
So you attacked our base..
A quick overview of the battle:
Five RoG soldiers arrived in the spawn, Tristan and KCGANGSTA included. Tristian rezzes a chair and sits on it (in safeland) so he can’t be pushed out. KC and the three men then attempt to get up the mountain via the staircase, they are mowed down by Jimbo and Vegna who are on the Machine gun turrets.
They re-rez and try to get up the mountain using grav-packs, and are shot down by Logan in a Phoenix. RoG retreats from Fort Valiant, Tristian de-rezzes his chair and teleports out, only to scream at me through IM using childish insults and ‘your mum’ jokes. Each sentence he used seemed to end in ‘SUCK ON THAT FAGGOT’ in caps lock.
Well done RoG, you got owned.
-Fox Mulgrave- AM Grand Marshal
Maks Vendetta
Dec 2nd, 2007
Wow, so get unbanned and apparently one of us used a “sim crashing blue nuke.”
Inuyasha Deere
Dec 2nd, 2007
Wow. It seems as if the RoG have lost their will to combat; They have surrendered.
They right-clicked my aircraft, returned it, then banned me from the parcel. Shortly after banning me, they set off a blue-tinted sim crashing device…. claiming I used it, thus making it an excuse for banning me. Unfortunately for them, this was a terrible excuse, because they did not set off the griefing tool until I had been banned for a score or so of seconds.
…. Did I forget to mention they claimed that carpet bombing was griefing in its self and that because I dropped ordinance while he was building is too?
Nice way to ruin your reputation, RoG. I hope most groups remove you from their list of recognized factions.
Vegna Fouroux
Dec 2nd, 2007
RoG tried attacking our base again, same procedure, me and jimbo with miniguns mowing them down. Then KC being the lulcow he is spawnrapes me with bombs and i get it all on video then KC hits fox with some kind of griefer device resulting in him being banned. Basically the only real threat was a Vanguard Lietunant Kizzi who fucked off afterwards seeing RoG’s pathetic soldering
- Vegna Fouroux, AM NCO
SqueezeOne Pow
Dec 3rd, 2007
Does the AM have a full base with damage yet?
I’m just curious because they didn’t when they tried attacking us a few days ago.