Tizzers Foxchase: Rock Fresh
by Pixeleen Mistral on 30/09/12 at 12:14 am
Exclusive interview and pictures from Fort Longcat
Early this week, Linden Lab destroyed the Sandvich region of Second Life and banned Sandvich land owner Sarilia Tryce and associates from the game, presumably in response to the Justice League Unlimited gang's favorite tactics: abuse report frenzy. The JLU and their allies were spurred into action as news spread of a terrifying situation at high altitude in Sandvich: a recreation of Fort Longcat - a virtual museum of PN, Soviet Woodbury, 4Chan /b/tard memes. Shock!!! Horrors!!!
outside Fort Longcat high above Sandvik sim
For the JLU, this sort of enemy sighting instantly leads to an unthinking knee jerk reaction - kill it with fire - regardless of the consequences. So while the Sandvich nuke job was initially hailed by JLU partisans, gradually the realization dawned that seizing property without compensation or explanation could lead to unfavorable publicity. Strangely, some believe property rights should extend to all.
Tizzers Foxchase [file photo]
Had the anti-griefers been trolled into damaging their beloved Lab's reputation by the notorious perma-banned Tizzers Foxchase and friends? Did the Woodbury/Wrong Hands/PN faction set up a win-win situation by promoting Second Life with a Steam-themed sim which could attract more players to their community - or embarrass the Lab if the ban hammer fell?
trouble in the sky?
Ms. Foxchase has now experienced 4 rounds of mass bans and sim deletions, so the end game for any visit to Rod Humble's platform for user-generated spooge palaces creativity is clear - but what are the motivations?
I was able to explore some of these questions shortly after Sandvich fell off the world map in an exclusive interview with Ms. Foxchase as I looked over some pictures I had taken on a visit to the Sandvich sim fort Longcat re-creation a few weeks ago.
do you want to join the discussion?
While there were certainly portions of Fort Longcat that seem designed to offend - the room of flapping penises might not be the best advertisement for Second Life - I wonder if more traditional and well established top 20 SL attractions such as Bukkake Bliss Island will impress Linden Lab's new target market: Stream players. Why isn't the JLU working to improve SL's image where it really counts?
the garage in Fort Longcat: Kalel Venkman's JLU patrol car
As we discussed game governance, Tizzers told me her alt account Hissyfits Resident when deleted had $600 USD worth of mesh clothes - a sobering thought for any fashionista - but comforting to those who enjoy the long running Second Life meta-game: Authoritarian Kleptocracy.
You may wonder why Authoritarian Kleptocracy seems to be Linden Lab's favored form of governance, but it does make a certain amount of sense to those unconcerned with the rule-of-law and moving beyond a feudal society. Fear and intimidation -- do you really want to lose your virtual clothes? -- may well cut the costs of sandbox game governance, but at the cost of increased player cynicism and pointed questions about LL's new ventures.
Where will Rod Humble draw the line? Now that the Lab has released knock-off copies of Crayons Physics Deluxe and Minecraft, should we fear for our 2D-physics enabled iPad finger paintings and triangle-based constructions? With these thoughts in mind, I fired up my new Apple iMojoWire 5 for a chat with Tizzers.
Pixeleen Mistral: Ever since Linden Lab announced two new games - Createoverse and Patterns - I've been wondering about game gods' plan to handle governance across the product line. If you are banned in SL are you also banned in their other games? What if someone makes a naughty looking thing in Createoverse - will there be an adult Createoverse?
Tizzers Foxchase: And the question beyond that is, if SL uses Steamcloud, will SL bans affect Steam accounts?
Pixeleen Mistral: getting back to the Sandvich situation, should we assume that Soft Linden is taking the virtual law into his own hands here - or was this a ban that went through normal channels?
Tizzers Foxchase: Generally mass wipes and sim nukes aren't done through normal channels.
Greetings,
This email is notification that Linden Lab has terminated your access to the Second Life virtual world due to severe or repeated violations of the Second Life Terms of Service or Community Standards which broadly interfere with or disrupt the Second Life community. Your account has been permanently disabled. Depending on the nature of the recorded violations, additional alternate or household accounts may also have been disabled.The decision to terminate your Second Life access was reached after investigating your use of the Second Life software and service. If you would like to appeal your termination, you may contact Second Life Support, by creating a support ticket type of "Abuse Appeal" on support.second life.com.
Sincerely,
Linden Lab
defending the world from furry scum
Pixeleen Mistral: I think you guys are clearly the record holders for sim-smackdowns
Tizzers Foxchase: for the record, I have about 600 USD worth of purchases on Hissyfits Resident, just buying *stuff*. Like crap loads of mesh clothes. lol
Pixeleen Mistral: has this setback discouraged you from playing Second Life? or do you plan to return?
Tizzers Foxchase: Being censored by Linden Lab has never discouraged us from returning to the grid. Despite the shortcomings of the company running it, many of us still enjoy the game with the hopes that one day somebody will build a better SL sans Linden Lab.
Pixeleen Mistral: so why do you think Linden Lab continues to use what are apparently ineffective measures to "protect" their game from this sort of meta-gaming and rouge narrative?
This is the 4th time your faction has been banned and had your sims nuked - Linden Lab does not seem to be employing effective counter-measures
Tizzers Foxchase: I think there remains a handful of vocal residents and Linden employees that continue to harbor grudges from the past. Despite the fact that our group stays to itself, the fact that we exist shatters their world. I imagine these people flood Linden Lab with correspondence until something is done.
Pixeleen Mistral: should Second Life players expect your faction to return?
Tizzers Foxchase: You can check out anytime you like, but you can never leave.
Pixeleen Mistral: i c
Was the owner of the land that Linden Lab confiscated today compensated for the loss of his property?
Tizzers Foxchase: There was never any compensation for the purchase of the sim. As in typical Linden Lab fashion, we've received the creepy silent treatment.
an Afroduck picture and boxes of equipment
its dangerous to go alone - take this
Pixeleen Mistral: Would you advise others to play Second Life? You seem to be willing to play for fairly high stakes but what about someone who is just getting started?
Tizzers Foxchase: Professionalism and customer service aren't strong points at Linden Lab. It's a very political company with many different conflicting opinions and visions internally. This is really brought to light by the GlassDoor reviews by former employees. http://www.glassdoor.com/Reviews/Linden-Lab-Reviews-E100549.htm
Pixeleen Mistral: But you continue to play - despite the odds - why?
Tizzers Foxchase: Unfortunately Second Life remains the only "game in town" at least in terms of collaborative virtual world spaces. Being able to contiguously co-exist with thousands of other people simultaneously is a really cool thing. I get a lot of satisfaction from watching people genuinely enjoy the communities that we create.
Pixeleen Mistral: and you have also created an infrastructure outside SL that allows your group to survive these periodic mass bans
Tizzers Foxchase: Skype has been invaluable in that regard. It has essentially become my SL friends list and many of us have been in 24/7 chats dating back several years. Getting banned is just a minor hiccup because we rarely need our in-world friends list or chat ability.
Pool's Closed inside the "dead n****r storage" room
Pixeleen Mistral: So there is really very little Linden Lab can do to discourage your faction - do you think there will ever be some sort of peaceful coexistence?
Tizzers Foxchase: I think by now Linden realizes that these bans are mostly token PR statements showing good faith on their part, rather than effective measures to rid the grid of who they consider persona non grata.
Pixeleen Mistral: that seems like a realistic appraisal of the situation
Tizzers Foxchase: Most of us are in favor of peaceful coexistence. The core group rarely left the Sandvich sim.
trolling crew
Pixeleen Mistral: perhaps some of your critics will attempt to attract and retain Steam players
We can hope that the Justice League Unlimited and Ravenglass Rentals will pick up the slack - or maybe not. Do you think that the JLU and Ravenglass Rentals will attract more paying players than Sandvich would have?
Tizzers Foxchase: When Sarilia and I discovered that Second Life was going to be listed on Valve's Steam platform, we knew that was a demographic of gamers that would fit in well with ours. Sandvich was created to be a familiar place for these people. This idea was reinforced when photos of the sim reached the front page of Reddit's r/gaming with over 1800 upvotes. I'm not sure I could say the same about Ravenglass Rentals.
Pixeleen Mistral: we can only hope the game gods know best. Is there anything else you would like to tell the Herald readers? what have I missed?
Tizzers Foxchase: Second Life is a stepping stone in the history of virtual worlds. The best thing we could do is learn what not to do, and apply that in future competing products. In the meantime, rock fresh.
Pedonymous
Sep 30th, 2012
Tizzers doesn’t deserve any of the shit that gets handed to her, she’s a fair person who only wanted to build a place where friends could meet up and hang out with each other in an environment that didn’t have the usual badly-built crap or sexual promiscuity you see in most of the grid.
For anyone who had visited Sandvich and seen the little apartment with the flag, I was the one who was living there. I’m really REALLY angry at LL for their wanton mass bans targeting an extremely small and relatively harmless group of troublemakers.
If it was really that big an issue, why not just remove Fort Longcat and ban the people who made it instead of deleting the whole sim, destroying a bunch of innocent folk’s work?
LOL
Sep 30th, 2012
waits for a glen beck “hitler” comment
Economic Engineer
Sep 30th, 2012
Originally, I thought the JLU played a part in the banning.
But according to Kalel Venkman on Plurk.
“Kal-El says The Herald article got it wrong, as well – I wasn’t claiming responsibility for the event – just reporting it.”
Usually I take anything he’s says as a grain of salt since he has no problem bullshitting people, but I think he’s telling the truth. The JLU has never had a problem claiming they banned us in the past, whether they actually took part in it or not. So it’s a little bizarre he’s claiming he didn’t do anything now.
He also mentioned in a recent Krypton Radio article SL is “dying” because Linden Lab has been ignoring their abuse reports.
Pedonymous
Sep 30th, 2012
@Economic Engineer
I think SL is dying because of LL’s internal conflict and politics-style hierarchy instead of operating like a proper business. I also think it’s dying because nobody’s allowed to relax and have fun.
Economic Engineer
Sep 30th, 2012
@Pedonymous
It’s dying because it doesn’t appeal to anyone under the age of 30. (unless you’re a griefer) It’s buggy and they haven’t updated their graphics in over a decade. It won’t officially “die” though until there’s actually viable competition. It’ll just slowly decline over the next couple of years.
Tux
Sep 30th, 2012
Rock Fresh ♥
EndOfStory
Sep 30th, 2012
It is good this is finally getting sorted out…well sort of…
+10 for failed Economic engineering paying attention
What this coverage is missing is the egregious photos of certain “content” in the sky-zone of Sandvich, the multilayered events leading up to “big event” and a more complete accounting by Twizzlers of the whole thing in an honest way…but the dude specializes in candy coat so no real surprise there.
This follow-up story might as well be reduced to a single cute picture of a puppy. The effeminate love the sort of shit; the hardcore actors cringe and walk away with utter embarrassment
Glenn Beck
Sep 30th, 2012
@LOL
You know who else waited for a Hitler comment?
…Hitler.
hobo kelly
Oct 1st, 2012
Ok Mischief Makers, Tizzers called it, and now you can watch it. Coming to you with no commercial interruptions on AHTV this afternoon is the 1 hour and 20 minute Los Angeles Grafitti documentary “ROCK FRESH” so come on along Mischief Makers and join the colorful fun…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5yXSHvxoJY
bubblesort
Oct 1st, 2012
Hmmm… if one Hitler is equal to 4.14e13 dollars then the cost of a sim for a month is about $300, then getting screwed on the price of one months tier is roughly 7.25 picohitlers, so Tizzers has been screwed over by LL to the tune of 7.25 picohitlers * the number of months tier she paid so far.
Reference: http://i.imgur.com/Wka6a.png
Windy
Oct 1st, 2012
Tizzers is such a pathetic little attention whore that it’s not even funny anymore. When I think of the amount of time and effort he has spent desperately trying to get noticed by everyone from Prok to the Linden Lab staff, it’s just sad. How much did he invest in this half-assed stunt just to get a few days of notoriety in the tiny (and irrelevant) community of people who actually give a shit about SL? And even there, people basically either shrugged at the whole thing or openly mocked him. (And, c’mon… “Rock fresh”? Really? Could you possibly be more of an unintentional self-parody?)
John Doe
Oct 1st, 2012
Tizzers Foxchase: for the record, I have about 600 USD worth of purchases on Hissyfits Resident, just buying *stuff*. Like crap loads of mesh clothes. lol
Wow so it amazes me that Tizzer has lots, of money to blow on Second Life only to get banned over and over while others in the US are struggling.
Seriously time to grow up.
Paul
Oct 1st, 2012
So Tizzers Foxchase gets “a lot of satisfaction from watching people genuinely enjoy the communities that we create.” Does that satisfaction include watching their accounts, money, sims, and builds disappear in a flash when they –predictably– are banned and erased because of Tizzer’s presence?
He also suggests that “being able to contiguously co-exist with thousands of other people simultaneously is a really cool thing.” This from a person who has been banned four times and almost had his ass shot off by a redneck vigilante with delusions of grandeur.
Tizzers suggests that “the fact that we exist shatters their world.” Wouldn’t “the fact they exist” more accurately constitute a ‘continuing annoyance’ to a video game company that makes millions of dollars from (other) paying customers?
Pix ask Tizzers “why do you think Linden Lab continues to use what are apparently ineffective measures to “protect” their game from this sort of meta-gaming and rouge narrative?”
Well, maybe since the meta gamers include people like Kalel, Tux, Tizzer, Marktwain White, and Stroker Serpentine, as a business owner, wouldn’t you also just say “hell with it” and turn the place into a simple video game arcade and protect the flow of money that comes in from not-those-people?
Pedonymous
Oct 1st, 2012
@John Doe
OH NO
CLEARLY SHE SHOULD DONATE ALL HER ASSETS TO THE STARVING CHILDREN IN AFRICA
John Doe
Oct 1st, 2012
Why are you calling him a her. Tizzer is a him irl. He is a little boy who is still crying over the big bad evil company Linden Labs.
Yes it seems that Pixel, Tizzers and some others all plotted on how to try to make SL look bad.
All it does is show what a bunch of cry babies they are.
EndOfStory
Oct 1st, 2012
Jordan is man incarnate, boy in mentality, 12 year old in IQ.
In any case, he is male and the female personna only makes it more laughable. They refer to him as “her” John because it’s an endearment thing deeply shared amongst The Wrong Handmaidens
But he does like puppies!
That should count for something no?
I’ve seen homeless people sporting puppie these days..
Pedonymous
Oct 1st, 2012
@John Doe
That’s the joke.
Economic Engineer
Oct 1st, 2012
“So Tizzers Foxchase gets “a lot of satisfaction from watching people genuinely enjoy the communities that we create.” Does that satisfaction include watching their accounts, money, sims, and builds disappear in a flash when they –predictably– are banned and erased because of Tizzer’s presence?”
Banned? I thought it was Linden Lab’s way of telling us it’s time for a new build while simultaneously cleaning our cluttered inventories. You learn something new every day.
“He also suggests that “being able to contiguously co-exist with thousands of other people simultaneously is a really cool thing.” This from a person who has been banned four times and almost had his ass shot off by a redneck vigilante with delusions of grandeur.”
Well in that sense I don’t think we’d describe that as ‘cool’, just mildly entertaining.
Alyx Stoklitsky
Oct 2nd, 2012
I love you, Windowlic. Tenderly.
Paul
Oct 2nd, 2012
Economic Engineer,
No, it’s ‘banned’ if that is what happened. Banned as in, kicked out and their stuff taken away. So if you guys could predict that that would have happened, as seems reasonable, and you allowed other people to invest money and their creative time into that sim, then, well, that just shows something about you eh? So spare the ridiculous disaffected blather like “no no no not ‘cool, just mildly amusing’ or ‘cleaning our cluttered inventories as linden lab wants”, it’s just perfume on a petty little pig who will take whatever attention they can get, mate.
Pedonymous
Oct 2nd, 2012
Why do you guys whine so much
It’s just a game
Live and let live
Humphro
Oct 2nd, 2012
Alyx is still alive? I thought by now he would have died of malnutrition or AIDS from his loser furry wife.
Economic Engineer
Oct 2nd, 2012
“No, it’s ‘banned’ if that is what happened. Banned as in, kicked out and their stuff taken away.”
Oh you mean like when they kick you out, take all your stuff and then you come back and get all your stuff back? I think I know what you’re talking about now.
“and you allowed other people to invest money and their creative time into that sim,”
The only people that “invest” anything into the sims know the inevitable outcome.
Paul
Oct 2nd, 2012
“The only people that “invest” anything into the sims know the inevitable outcome.”
Well, it’s true they might think they are ‘investing’ their time and money into a virtual build, and they might enjoy that idea even though they know there is some risk and certainly they know the monetary cost. However, they might have no idea that some dipsh&t griefer suffering from arrested development thinks that it’s ok to see other people’s work go down in flames for their own enjoyment, so long as they hide their own venal desperation for attention in some bullshit rhetoric. But otherwise I agree with you, caveat emptor.
Fortunately, or unfortunately as the case may be, Linden Lab seems to agree, and seem to be catering to the paying customer now rather then to the brave virtual frontiersmen like Tizzers, Tux, Strokerz, Kalel, and the others who did such a fine job when their hands were on the reins.
Economic Engineer, you remind me of Tux with your silly rationalizations for being a jerk to other people. Keep it coming, I am trying to understand impression management.
Economic Engineer
Oct 2nd, 2012
@Paul
If you were saying the group (or more specifically Tizzers in this case) are a bunch of jerks because they wanted to create a community that attracted loads of regular members for the sole purpose of that community’s hangout getting banned and causing those regulars to rage at Linden Lab, then you would have a valid point. You’re trying to say we don’t tell our contributors who we are when the group makes these communities. The biggest builder is Tizzers; some extra work might be done by other TWH members. Our sim owners are also TWH members; they know the group’s plan and what happens when they provide the group a sim from previous experiences. I’m not trying to “rationalize” being a jerk. I’m just saying you’re accusing the group of being jerks for the wrong reasons.
EndOfStory
Oct 2nd, 2012
Spectre Linden revealed (by Prok of all people) and the emergence of a new, shadow ops group (not JLU) sticking it to TWH. Can you say “a new set of dynamics and of clout inworld” anyone?
The more things are reported to stay the same, the more we realize they are in fact changing
- Drastically!
And Jim. Hai! You’re a stooge. (oh, but you knew that already didn’t you…) All the important facts have be properly presented by the real idiots involved, so your line of thinking is only a “trap” and intentionally misguided.
Paul
Oct 2nd, 2012
ahh I get it now! the entire Sandvich sim was built by people who were TWH members, including and mostly Tizzers, who knew specifically that it would end up being deleted and banned. Fair enough, but then why is he whining about what happened if it was a foregone conclusion? Why would he be stupid enough to put $600 in that were bound to be stolen?
I admit then, if it is true what you say, that I was accusing them of being jerks for the wrong reasons. I actually meant to accuse them of being jerks when they grief their fellow travelers for nothing more than their own petty laughs and then pretend it is some grandiose social experiment. My bad.
Economic Engineer
Oct 2nd, 2012
“Fair enough, but then why is he whining about what happened if it was a foregone conclusion?”
If your plan is to get sympathy from people and make Linden Lab look bad, you can’t say “I lost my sim, my account and all my money… also I knew it was going to happen since day one.”
“Why would he be stupid enough to put $600 in that were bound to be stolen?”
Personally, I wouldn’t spend that much on Second Life. I guess money isn’t an issue for him.
“I actually meant to accuse them of being jerks when they grief their fellow travelers for nothing more than their own petty laughs and then pretend it is some grandiose social experiment.”
Well at least you have a valid reason.
Paul
Oct 2nd, 2012
“If your plan is to get sympathy from people and make Linden Lab look bad”
Was that, in fact, his plan? That was not clear from the article.
At face value, it seems as if Pix and Tizzers would have us believe that Sandvich sim was an innocent hijinx designed to attract Steam users, and the big bad kleptocracy of Linden Lab came along like big bullies and shut them down, at the loss of $600 for Tizzers, and that the JLU was (of course) partially to blame for this.
You are right again! There is a difference between saying all that, and, say, saying all that in a disingenuous way specifically to make LL look bad and get sympathy from people. So once again, if that is true, thanks for clearing it up!
Parenthetically, in re-reading the article, it strikes me that the swipe at Buk&kke Bliss seems unfair. Whatever your feelings about what goes on at Buk&kke Bliss, whoever runs that sim certainly provides a venue that is in high demand by (often paying) second life customers and provides a steady and seemingly reasonably profitable revenue stream for the sim owners and for Linden Lab. Isn’t that what a business is supposed to do? In contrast, I wonder what “the wrong hands” and “woodbury” have contributed to the success of Second Life? How come Buk&kke Bliss has not been banned four times? Isn’t it somewhat ironic that people like Tizzers and Tux repeatedly end up getting kicked out of a world that tolerates such extremes of human behavior as slav&ry, r&pe, group s&x, and be&stiality? It puts a new spin on Groucho Marx’s line “I wouldn’t belong to any club that would have me as a member” Second Life is good enough for gang r&pe, but the Penquin? not so much.
Economic Engineer
Oct 2nd, 2012
I have to say, It’d be interesting if Buk&kke Bliss\Linden Lab banned themselves four times.
Sumyungguy
Oct 2nd, 2012
Places like Buk&kke Bliss and the various other even more unsavory sims only tarnish Second Life and Linden Lab’s reputation, especially when they’re favored over G sims or free players. It’s a well known thing that older accounts and paid accounts are overlooked more when it comes to violations.
In short, LL needs to change their approach to the playerbase if they want to be relevant on Steam. Because the average person on Steam is very much like the sort of person you’d see in Sandvich.
Tux
Oct 2nd, 2012
@Pedo:
‘If it was really that big an issue, why not just remove Fort Longcat and ban the people who made it instead of deleting the whole sim, destroying a bunch of innocent folk’s work?’
Because LL has to make a gesture to quiet the whingers for a while. While they continue to file reports it delays LL from doing more important things. All it took was 700 AR’s this time, people must be so determined! It’s the circle, the circle of Second Life.
@Windy:
‘Tizzers is such a pathetic little attention whore that it’s not even funny anymore. When I think of the amount of time and effort he has spent desperately trying to get noticed by everyone from Prok to the Linden Lab staff, it’s just sad.’
His time, his money, enough said!
@John Doe:
‘Wow so it amazes me that Tizzer has lots, of money to blow on Second Life only to get banned over and over while others in the US are struggling.’
Who cares? Tizz has money and can spend it how he wishes. Being poor means you can dictate how those of us with money can spend it? I think not. Get a job!
@Paul:
‘Well, maybe since the meta gamers include people like Kalel, Tux, Tizzer, Marktwain White, and Stroker Serpentine, as a business owner, wouldn’t you also just say “hell with it” and turn the place into a simple video game arcade and protect the flow of money that comes in from not-those-people?’
The money flow is the all important factor for LL, not where it comes from. When I take a pee in your river, you ultimately end up drinking it. After it is cleaned obviously. Which is the point!
@EndOfStory:
‘I’ve seen homeless people sporting puppie these days..’
Wow, against the grain. Everyone else is bitching about how he spends his money.
@Paul: (again)
‘Linden Lab seems to agree, and seem to be catering to the paying customer now rather then to the brave virtual frontiersmen like Tizzers, Tux, Strokerz, Kalel, and the others who did such a fine job when their hands were on the reins.’
For the record I am still a paying customer
‘Economic Engineer, you remind me of Tux with your silly rationalizations for being a jerk to other people. Keep it coming, I am trying to understand impression management.’
Oh god, next EE will be my alt. Look out for accusations of ban evasion XD
@EndOfStory: (again)
‘Spectre Linden revealed (by Prok of all people) and the emergence of a new, shadow ops group (not JLU) sticking it to TWH. Can you say “a new set of dynamics and of clout inworld” anyone?’
Firstly Spectre is an alt. Secondly, to my knowledge he hasn’t been near the TWH (yet). But go ahead, put your faith in an alt. For you clearly fail to see the humor in it’s creation.
‘The more things are reported to stay the same, the more we realize they are in fact changing’
For sure, except you don’t realise how much!
@Paul:
‘Isn’t it somewhat ironic that people like Tizzers and Tux repeatedly end up getting kicked out of a world that tolerates such extremes of human behavior as slav&ry, r&pe, group s&x, and be&stiality?’
Tux isn’t repeatedly kicked out XD. It happened once, and I was allowed back in. However, I don’t think it is ironic. To me it shows what LL sees will turn a profit. Giving a platform to deviant behaviors when no one else will, allowing the fat and ugly to model themselves on their own desires, all allow LL to help the worlds freaks to immerse themselves into full fantasy.
This model is flawed though. In reality it warps perceptions. People’s behaviors change. Married men and fathers believe themselves to become so involved they begin to believe in the game. They become imitation superheroes. IRL they abandon their family, break their marriage vows, and build relationships with morbidly obese home wreckers who share this grand delusion.
Or they are women, possibly once normal, who become so entrenched they quadruple in size. But it doesn’t matter because on screen they are normal. They too become superheroes. They destroy friendships in order to wreck a marriage and a family, so they can have their superman (typing this made me puke in my mouth).
So I ask you, all of you, who has the better grip on reality?
The guys who play a game for a bit of a laugh? Or the guys who make the game their reality and the expense of losing their real lives?
EndOfStory
Oct 3rd, 2012
Obvious fixation on Kalel and his marriage situation is obvious and in the (self) mind-fucked way innuendoed simply speaks volumes about you Tux. Complicit fixation on both sides is comedy gold. Get over it Bro! Matters not.
The bit about Tux being “let back in” by LL is patently false otherwise the Tux Winkler account would be alive and well…and it isn’t. That’s not to say you haven’t maintained the revenue generating acct you’ve had all along..but to those that worked hard to get out jail with LL – offending account reestablishment is common and demonstrable.
You’re not one of those examples. You’re the example of the hard & fast “No” from governance. If LL linked your revenue generating account, it would gone in a New York minute.
“”The more things are reported to stay the same, the more we realize they are in fact changing”"
“For sure, except you don’t realise how much!”
You ignored the “drastically” part. And with that have revealed another ongoing “inconvenient truth” omission tactic. Can it be blamed on the bad eyesight? Let others be the judge of that…no explanation needed from you dude.
You continue to ignore a whole bunch of other factoids sprinkled about. In summary, credibility lost Tux, any substantial credibility lost.
Your voice = zero value.
Paul
Oct 3rd, 2012
Your above all that, Tux? Your computer use hasn’t caused any unfortunate repercussions in your real life?
Tux
Oct 3rd, 2012
Nope, none.
Dontspill McGinnis
Oct 3rd, 2012
@ Tux,
I have to contradict you there..
I just pissed myself laughing, as a result of reading your comment. That is a damned unfortunate repercussion!
I’m going to have to oil the chain mail hauberk again.
Tux
Oct 3rd, 2012
@EndOfStory:
‘Obvious fixation on Kalel and his marriage situation is obvious and in the (self) mind-fucked way innuendoed simply speaks volumes about you Tux.’
See, there I was happily playing the game, when out of the blue I get linked to accusations by Superman himself. So yes, a little vocal retaliation is due. Since the accusations was false that is.
‘Complicit fixation on both sides is comedy gold.’
Retaliation is not fixation.
‘Get over it Bro! Matters not.’
I am not your, or anyone else’s, Bro. Neither are you.
‘The bit about Tux being “let back in” by LL is patently false otherwise the Tux Winkler account would be alive and well…and it isn’t.’
Wrong. I didn’t ask for my Tux account back (due to reputation etc), I don’t think they would allow that account back. I asked for, and was granted, permission to play Second Life. There was, of course, a few conditions. But I complied with them. And yes, my email address is the same, as is my billing information. By all means keep telling yourself it isn’t so.
‘That’s not to say you haven’t maintained the revenue generating acct you’ve had all along.’
‘but to those that worked hard to get out jail with LL – offending account reestablishment is common and demonstrable.’
Permission for me to use the grid was similar to N3X15. Old accounts were neither requested or required.
‘You’re not one of those examples. You’re the example of the hard & fast “No” from governance. If LL linked your revenue generating account, it would gone in a New York minute.’
They have my billing information and my email address. That hasn’t changed XD
‘You ignored the “drastically” part. And with that have revealed another ongoing “inconvenient truth” omission tactic.’
I didn’t ignore it. I simply don’t agree with its use. Mainly because your preceding paragraph (re: Spectre) was incorrect.
‘Can it be blamed on the bad eyesight?’
Oh wow, mentioning my health again. I wonder what you’ll call up next. (BTW I have a massive screen, because I have a job)
‘You continue to ignore a whole bunch of other factoids sprinkled about.’
Of course, factoids are not facts. And should always be taken with a pinch of salt. Prok, for example is a believe, and generator, of factoids.
FACTOID: A factoid is a questionable or spurious (unverified, false, or fabricated) statement presented as a fact, but with no veracity. The word can also be used to describe a particularly insignificant or novel fact, in the absence of much relevant context
‘In summary, credibility lost Tux, any substantial credibility lost.’
Lol. Awesome.
‘Your voice = zero value.’
Yet you waste so much time listening. Bless you.
Heavy
Oct 3rd, 2012
What sick man sends babies to fight me?
Paul
Oct 3rd, 2012
“Nope, none.” I spit my coffee out when I read that one. lmaoooooooo
Tux
Oct 3rd, 2012
@Paul:
‘ “Nope, none.” I spit my coffee out when I read that one. lmaoooooooo ‘
hobo kelly
Oct 3rd, 2012
So, what kind of devious deeds WERE being carried out high in the sky inside their Fort Longcat den of iniquity by these seeming space ALIENS from another planet? Eh Michief Makers? Humankind may never be able to fully comprehend. But we can go watch them safely through our Magic Computer Screen! So come on along, but leave your 3D glasses off Mischief Makers, it would scramble your brain on this one…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8rG8jBICDEw
Dontspill McGinnis
Oct 3rd, 2012
Oh I misread all that.. the “your real life” thing..
Paul, you have hinted at this before. Am I right in thinking you believe Tux has spent time at “her Majesty’s pleasure” for illegal activities on his PC?
I’d love to know who fed you that one.. Surely you haven’t been feeding from the spandex trough.. You should know better!
I have known Tux since 2006. We speak almost daily on Skype or the phone, and I can confirm that there have been no such absences.
Even if Tux had wished to prevent me knowing, I’m pretty sure all of his kids and his PC wouldn’t be allowed in with him..
But if you know different…
Paul
Oct 3rd, 2012
Is that what I was hinting at? Thanks for letting me know, I get confused about what exactly Tux is denying sometimes.
But in any case, are you saying that the Penquin’s story is more reliable than Superman’s?????
PotosiAbonwood
Oct 3rd, 2012
I don’t know about the other Paul but I wouldn’t believe a word out of the SL Supermans mouth. He seems to be nothing more than a control freak with some extreme stalkerish tendencies along with a paranoid delusion that there is some big organized group of greifers out there all working together. Really the guy just sounds like a nutcase.
Tux
Oct 3rd, 2012
Oh, and what is Supermans story?
Dontspill McGinnis
Oct 3rd, 2012
Well, its something you have suggested before, and i guess it was a bit more assured than a hint. But you back track if it makes you feel better. i don’t mind.
If the JLU is the source of your assumption, then there is no need to answer that question.
But just in case it isn’t, then yes, I would put more credence in Tux’s words than in any member of the JLU.
You may not like what he does, but he never lies about it.
Tux says it exactly as he see’s it, where as the JLU says it exactly as they want you to see it.
Robble Rubble
Oct 4th, 2012
@Windy
“How much did he invest in this half-assed stunt just to get a few days of notoriety in the tiny (and irrelevant) community of people who actually give a shit about SL?”
He began spitballing the idea about a year ago, a few weeks after last year’s JLU/SLU drama, back when the sim was called nope. Nothing came of that until one month someone forgot to pay the rent and the sim was repoed by the Lab. The next sim that was bought was named Reddit and placed directly below the brony sims. There was an initial influx of people from reddit but those were quickly ran off by his own admin staff and the waves of welcome hub people who wanted to be one of the “cool kids”. With the Reddit themed sim idea down the shitter he had the sim renamed to Sandvich and jumped on the valve game theme to attract more traffic, which worked initially. He still needed a catalyst to make LL ban them so he invited the PN into the sim to speed up the banning process, so they would get banned while still relevant. This happened over an 8 month span so to answer your question it cost well over 3000 usd for him to wave his flaccid e-peen around.
Doctor Ynot
Oct 4th, 2012
I wish ED was still around. Damned if this wouldn’t make a good article.
That said, I can’t really understand why Tizzers would persist in Second Life. It’s not really a place for ‘creators’ anymore as I interpret the word: it’s basically, at this point, a half-assed cyber orgy for (fat) degenerates to bukkake someone else’s virtual avatar while waiting for their Fallen London candle to refresh.
Who the fuck dumps real money into that sort of operation?
Paul
Oct 4th, 2012
I get all my news about Superman and the Penquin and their penny ante dramas from the Alphaville Herald. If you think I would actually care enough to seek either out for more information, you haven’t been paying attention!
Robble Rubble
Oct 4th, 2012
@Doctor Ynot
Silly newfag, ED is still around, the address changed from .com to .se.